Deepseek, Stargate and the new AI arms race

Today, we're talking about DeepSeek, and how the open source Al model built by a Chinese startup has completely upended the conventional wisdom around chatbots, what they can do, and how much they should cost to develop.

We're also talking about Stargate, OpenAl's new $500 billion data center venture that's supposed to supercharge domestic Al infrastructure. Both stand in stark contrast with one another - and represent a new, escalating front in the US-China relationship and the geopolitics of Al. Verge senior Al reporter Kylie Robison joins me to break it all down.

Links:

• Why everyone is freaking out about DeepSeek | Verge

• DeepSeek FAQ | Stratechery

• DeepSeek: all the news about the startup that's shaking up Al stocks | Verge

• OpenAl and Softbank are starting a $500 billion Al data center company | Verge

• The Al spending frenzy is just getting started | Command Line

• After DeepSeek, VCs face questions about Al investments | NYT

• Satya Nadella on Stargate: 'All I know is I'm good for my $80 billion' | Verge

• OpenAl says it has evidence DeepSeek used its model to train competitor | FT

• DeepSeek sparks global Al selloff, Nvidia loses about $593 billion of value | Reuters

• Four big reasons to worry about DeepSeek (and four reasons to calm down) | Platformer

Credits:

Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.

The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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